The wrong sort of Anglicans? (sniff!)

In my reading this afternoon, I came across this article in First Things “In Defense of Converts” and came across this:

Nor is such sniffiness towards converts an exclusively American phenomenon. The day after Anglicanorum Coetibus was issued, providing personal ordinariates for Anglicans entering into communion with the Catholic Church, I recall a Jesuit friend remarking: “Yes, but they’re the wrong sort of Anglicans.” One wonders, of course, who the “right” ones would be.

It’s kind of funny, don’t you think?   The whole article is interesting.

6 thoughts on “The wrong sort of Anglicans? (sniff!)

  1. One wouldn’t have had to wonder what “sort of Anglicans” were right or wrong had the author given us a shred of context. Was the Jesuit friend a conservative, a liberal, or middle of the road? Interested in liturgy, social justice issues? But apparently a funny line iis preferable to actual information.


  2. The Paulist Fathers — a notoriously “progressive” (isn’t that a code word for “unorthodox”?) order — furnished chaplains to my alma mater until 2006, and they tended to select lay campus ministers of similar mind. I have served on an alumni/faculty advisory board for that ministry since 1992, so I’m well aware that the Paulist chaplains sometimes did things that were borderline but I never anything occurring on campus that came close to the abuses routinely reported at the Paulist Center (their “home base” in the area, derisively known as the “Appallist Center”) on the other side of the river in Boston. But one day, during a meeting of the advisory board a couple decades ago or so ago, one of the lay campus ministers remarked that she had gotten into a conversation with the staff of the Episcopal chaplaincy about people leaving each denomination for the other in which she had lamented, “It’s not fair — you’re taking all of our liberals and giving us your conservatives!”

    It has long been said that the Archbishop of Boston has two thorns in his miter. The aforementioned Paulist Center is, of course, one. The other is a Jesuit university named Boston College (BC), which is also notoriously “progressive” on many issues. There are a few orthodox Jesuits (and orthodox Jesuits tend to be very orthodox!), but the overwhelming majority are far from it. Thus, a Jesuit who refers to “the wrong sort of Anglicans” probably means those who are orthodox Christians.

    And unlike this Jesuit, my answer to ALL orthodox Christians who come into the full communion of the Catholic Church is very simple. Welcome aboard!



  3. Leaving aside the 75-80 % of those who become Catholics because they are marrying one, it stands to reason that former Anglicans are looking for a level of certainty and authority that their previous denomination did not provide for them. A Baptist or a Presbyterian may be looking for a richer liturgical or sacramental life; an Anglican already experienced those things but has become concerned about their validity. That is why it must be extremely disspiriting to be confronted with the factions and controversies within the Church, right up to public discussion of whether the Pope is Catholic. If they wanted to watch that sort of thing they could have stayed where they were.


    • Again I am with you, “welcome aboard”!!! and it is what our Holy Father Francis preached on Pentecost Sunday. The Pope once again invited us to bring the baptism in the Spirit to all Catholics. He reminded us that it is not an experience that belongs to us alone. He is convinced that it is an ecumenical grace, given by the Lord to draw Christians from different traditions together in spiritual communion. While there are differences,which can not be overlooked, we can still confidently walk together as disciples of Jesus, sharing a common prayer of praise, and working together in evangelization. The Pope called for a “reconciled diversity”, rejoicing in the diverse charisms of each grouping, and asking forgiveness for the prejudices of the past. He said it is time for a new ecumenism which involves not only respecting one another in dialogue, but also actually learning from one another in a humble receptive spirit. Rather then remain self enclosed at the doctrinal level claiming “we have it all”, we Catholics are challenged to acknowledge that we can certainly learn much from the practical gifting of our separated brothers and sisters. The Pope reminded us that we live in challenging times for Christianity. We cannot afford to be fighting one another, when we are called to be martyred for our faith, our persecutors do not ask whether you are a Catholic, Anglican, Baptist, or Pentecostal, etc, etc they simply ask “are you a Christian?” This “ecumenism in blood” speaks eloquently of our unity in Christ. In these days of crises for the Church this is what really matters. “COME HOLY SPIRIT” BILL H., .


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